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Coloured Ponies: Adult

Fun Loving 10.2hh Shetland Gelding


Ref #: 376183
  • Friendly, Affectionate Temperament
  • Snaffle Mouthed
  • A True Allrounder
SOLD!
  • Shetland
  • Skewbald
  • Gelding
  • 10 years
  • 10.2 hands
  • Friendly, Affectionate Temperament
  • Snaffle Mouthed
  • A True Allrounder
Perdita's Jazz Man aka 'Soli' is a fully registered, full up 42 inch (10.2hh) standard shetland gelding.

We have owned Soli for over 3 years, during which time he has done a bit of everything including; Showjumping, Pony Club, Hacking, Trips to the gallops, Camps and stay away shows. Soli would be best suited to a home where he gets to do plenty of different things, he will get bored if ridden in the school every day and likes to do plenty of hacking to break up the school work.

Soli's ideal home would be with a confident, fun loving rider who is looking for a fun best friend to enjoy. Whilst Soli has been ridden by beginners and lead rein and is perfectly safe, he doesn't enjoy this full time and loves the chance to go faster with someone more competent. With this in mind, he would also be well suited to a family with children of varying ages.

Soli is always ridden in a snaffle and is used to hacking in big open spaces as well as in all kinds of traffic. He can do the occasional excitable hop if doing something exciting but is never dangerous. You can give him a month off and hop straight back on as if he were ridden yesterday.

Sad sale of a much loved member of our family but he is now very much outgrown and deserves to be loved by his next family. We are in no rush, only the best home will be considered for our special boy.
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Beautiful 12.2hh cob mare


Ref #: 376179
  • Fantastic lead rein pony or companion
SOLD! Our beautiful girl has found her forever with the most wonderful family
  • Cob
  • Piebald
  • Mare
  • 12 years
  • 12.2 hands
  • Fantastic lead rein pony or companion
12 years old piebald traditional cob mare. She would make a fabulous companion, pet and lead rein pony!

She has a passport and microchip, she is fully vaccinated for flu and tetanus. She’s up to date with teeth, farrier and worming.

I rescued her two years ago with a young foal at foot, she was in a bad way when I found her but is now unrecognisable in every sense from the horse that came to me.

She is such a special little soul and I will only let her go to the perfect home, after everything she has been through in her life before I found her, I need to know that she has found a home for life.

I ride her in walk and trot and she is a very quiet and steady ride. But unfortunately I am too tall (I am 5ft10) to progress her ridden work any further. I have however been teaching my nieces to ride on her, the twins are 6 and the eldest is 10 and all three are complete beginners. She has proven to be a brilliant lead rein pony and is very patient with them, it has been so lovely to see her looking after them.

I do have her bitless and am more than happy to explain why to anyone that is interested in her. She is very well mannered and good to handle. She happily lives in or out.

I won’t sell her unseen and homes will be vetted. She deserves to find her forever where she will be safe and loved for the rest of her days. I am in absolutely no rush, just patiently waiting for her special person to find us. And in the meantime I will continue to teach my nieces on her.

No dealers, time wasters, no loans or payment plans. Forever homes only please. Serious enquiries only.

Based East Riding of Yorkshire

I am very busy at the minute so messages are preferred, if I think you sound suitable phone calls can be scheduled.

Devils Buddy aka Devi


Ref #: 376153
  • Make a perfect pony club / allrounder for a child
  • Very lightly backed
£3,750
  • Skewbald
  • Gelding
  • 4 years
  • 13.2 hands
  • Make a perfect pony club / allrounder for a child
  • Very lightly backed
Very lightly backed, done via hacking as we don’t have an arena. Although he is very low mileage, he has seen a lot and is very use to big machinery and traffic.

He is currently out of work as I don’t have the time to work him consistently, but he would be absolutely fine to chuck tack back on and start again.

He is good as gold with vet, dentist, farrier and to load/travel.

He would make a perfect pony club/allrounder for a child, he has proven to be more of a kick-alone

Murraybrook Kings Ransom - Non Native 5 year old gelding


Ref #: 373534
  • Registered Part Bred
  • Overstamped Chaps and Bspa
  • Winner as a 2 year old at County Level, Champion coloured at his first show
  • Arab Part Bred
  • Tobiano
  • Gelding
  • 5 years
  • 14.1 hands
  • Registered Part Bred
  • Overstamped Chaps and Bspa
  • Winner as a 2 year old at County Level, Champion coloured at his first show

Kash is a stunning Non Native 5 year old registered part bred gelding.
Beautiful nature and easy to do.
Stunning mover, straight and correct.
Shown successfully as a 2 year old and lightly shown as a 4 year old.
Sadly outgrown prematurely we have owned Kash for 2 years.
No vices.
Ideal pony for the new junior Hoys coloured class.
Much loved pony five star home sought

Rollestone Inde-cent
Greenbarrow Queen of Hearts

Tgca registered childs pony


Ref #: 376092
  • Suitable for confident novice
  • Active pony club member
  • Sadly outgrown
£7,000
  • Cob
  • Piebald
  • Gelding
  • 7 years
  • 13 hands
  • Suitable for confident novice
  • Active pony club member
  • Sadly outgrown
Not the ad we want to make but sadly outgrown.

13h tgca registered gelding 7yrs
Suitable for a confident novice.

We've had the pleasure of this lad for 3years now, he's an active pony club pony, attending rallies, camps,  shows , x country , show jumping, beach rides, forest rides , road work, rivers, fun rides, still used for regular weekly lessons. Hacks alone and in company. Current active in pony club.

Loads perfectly, lead on by my daughter since she's owned him. Extreamly quiet, loves a pamper. Excellent to clip, bath, farrier (currently barefoot), a pleasure all round kids pony. Hes upto date with absolutely everything, wolf teeth also removed.


We are in no rush to part with him and want to find a perfect match for him, he's very much loved. Also we would like to use him for this year's pony camp so won't be ready to leave us till that's complete beginning of July. If he was bigger he wouldn't be going anywhere. Plenty of videos and pictures to be seen, please no dealers need apply for him.

Wardrobe included rugs , black country saddle , bridle recently refitted and checked.

Plenty of videos and pictures

Superstar with oodles of Potential


Ref #: 376070
  • Safe
  • Old Head on Young Shoulders
  • Pleasure To Own
£4,500 ONO
  • Piebald
  • Gelding
  • 6 years
  • 12.1 hands
  • Safe
  • Old Head on Young Shoulders
  • Pleasure To Own
19 Jun Still for sale due to endless timewasters!

Dear Peanut, 12.1hh 6yo Piebald gelding, superstar in the making.

Huge amounts of potential. A sweetheart in all ways (easiest pony I have ever come across). Just wants to please.

Over the past few months, Peanut has been taken out show jumping, showing (fancy dress as well!), cross country, on and off the lead rein.

Hacks alone or in company, never silly or strong, has seen traffic, big machinery, absolutely fine. Good in open spaces, happy to stay with friends or ride on his own (when asked to do so). Been out on exercise and brilliantly mannered with hounds, stays up front or goes behind. Should make a good hunting pony on or off the lead rein.

Driven by children in his previous home.

Great on the ground, loves cuddles, manners to burn. Super to clip, shoe, on the box and trailer. Was very behaved for the dentist (references available).

Whilst he is still young and green schooling, he's shown he's safe, willing to learn and potential to burn, and with make a super pony club pony with a few more miles under his belt.

Lives out currently, no history of laminitis. Happily left on his own or with a friend when he comes in the stables.

Bridle, saddle and rugs included

Loads of pictures and videos available upon request.

Price drop to find the best home for this much loved pony.

Quality riding pony


Ref #: 375963
  • Renie is a Red Blagdon Very eye catching
  • Very trainable
  • Wonderful character
£4,800 inc VAT
  • Welsh Part Bred
  • Coloured
  • Mare
  • 5 years
  • 14 hands
  • Renie is a Red Blagdon Very eye catching
  • Very trainable
  • Wonderful character
Renie is a 14hh 5yo mare she has been with us since a 3yo we have had the pleasure of backing her ourselves,proving very kind and trainable.

She has been ridden by adults and children on the lead rein and off.

She is great in traffic and open spaces, she has three nice paces in the school and has been cross country ( the fun stuff not competing) yet!

Renie has so much potential and has the heart and temperament to do well in any sphere

Show quality, easy young cob that is sure to excel


Ref #: 375841
  • Excellent attitude
  • Very easy to handle and do in all ways, used to farm machinery and animals
  • Show quality
£2,500
  • Cob
  • Piebald
  • Gelding
  • 2 years
  • Excellent attitude
  • Very easy to handle and do in all ways, used to farm machinery and animals
  • Show quality
Wystone Lorenzo - Stunning Piebald CHAPS-Registered Young Horse For Sale

Looking for a well-mannered, versatile youngster with a fantastic future ahead.

This beautifully marked piebald gelding is CHAPS registered and has been carefully brought up in a busy farm environment. As a result, he is completely unfazed by heavy machinery, cattle, and sheep, making him an ideal candidate for a variety of disciplines.

Currently standing just over 13.1hh, this youngster is expected to mature to around 14.2hh. He will be two in September and has been well-handled with no vices. Used to farm life, they are excellent with the farrier and vet, and have been fully vaccinated and kept up to date with everything.

With plenty of feather and a solid build, this young man has great potential as a future show prospect, all-rounder, or family horse. Well-socialised and ready to progress in his training. This is a fantastic opportunity for someone looking for a talented and sensible young horse to bring on.

Serious enquiries only. Please get in touch for more details or to arrange a viewing
Custom Made Moviestar

Genuine happy hacker


Ref #: 375937
  • Absolutely gorgeous
  • Kind and willing
  • Forward plod type
SOLD!
  • Welsh Part Bred
  • Dun
  • Mare
  • 9 years
  • 13.3 hands (LHC)
  • Absolutely gorgeous
  • Kind and willing
  • Forward plod type
BRYNBACK PEGGY SUE

Registered DUN WPBR mare. Welsh section D x Up to height 13.3H rising 9 years.

Low mileage, no previous history known. I have owned Peggy sue since autumn of last year and I feel she is best suited to a hacking/ pleasure riding home. She's a forward plod type won't challenge anyone in a race but she'd win a beauty contest. We have dabbled at in-hand showing where she was foot perfect and goes very well in-hand potentially this is something she has done previously. She's a pleasure to be around.

To ride Peggy sue is responsive to the leg. She is wide as she is tall and forward not strong or silly. Enjoys going for a blast and hacks alone and in company. Not traffic shy however we are very rural so haven't seen any red busses yet! She's the sort you ride on the buckle the whole way. Goes first or last and happy with the dogs in tow ! Will pop logs and climb steep hills ..

Excellent to catch, groom, lead, bath, load, shoe etc slightly fussy to clip due to the noise of the clippers but the clipping part fine. Currently barefoot and wormed to date. Lives in or out in a mixed herd. No blemishes or sarcoids, allergies or scars. Teeth have been done this year.

**Peggy has shown to be girth shy not always and it's easily managed and kept at bay with simply not rushing. She is a statue to mount and won't move till asked. At worst she will swish her tail and raise her back slightly so would potentially put off a nervous or novice home. Ideally looking for a home who wants a horse they can pick up and drop, enjoy long rides out with friends and a friend to fuss over. Or equally she would be a fabulous broodmare due to her temperament.
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Rhiannon

All rounder / project Pony


Ref #: 375852
  • Alfie is the perfect companion for someone looking to have fun
£4,500 ONO
  • Appaloosa
  • Gelding
  • 11 years
  • 13.1 hands
  • Alfie is the perfect companion for someone looking to have fun
Not suitable as a first pony.

Alfie is the perfect companion for someone looking to have fun. Although he has three beautiful paces and showring potential, Alfie’s heart lies in goofing about. He adores learning and performing tricks and has an incredibly sharp and active mind. He gets bored sitting in the paddock and enjoys having a job to do.

Super hacking pony, he could explore for days! Great in traffic and on roads, doesn't bat an eye at any farm machinery, but he is on the sensitive side when it comes to oddly shaped bushes, therefore needs somebody confident to hold his hand.

His flatwork is strong, I could see him making a cute little dressage pony. Goes 99% of the time in a bitless bridle or rope halter, and the other 1% in a snaffle. He has a lovely jump, although it’s not his favourite activity. Jumped to 80cm with rider.

No dirt (rear/buck/bolt etc), the most he will do is stamp his front foot if he is dissatisfied.

Alfie is an absolute Labrador, he loves humans and being mischievous. Suited to a laidback home where his personality is able to shine through and he won't be forced to do something he doesn’t enjoy. Alfie is incredibly capable, his talents range from liberty work all the way to lateral.

Will only consider a home with other horses. Kind, experienced owners are a must.

Home more important than price.

Chaps registered Mary Poppins


Ref #: 375838
  • Excellent Temperament
  • Excellent to hack alone or in company
  • Would make a super WHP
  • Piebald
  • Mare
  • 8 years
  • 12.2 hands
  • Excellent Temperament
  • Excellent to hack alone or in company
  • Would make a super WHP
Chaps registered Mary Poppins

Lollipop is eight years old 12.2 homebred pony who lives on busy working farm.

Temperament not a whizzy pony shes a true child’s pony who will give lots of confidence and fun

Excellent to hack alone or in company has done ridden showing.

She has show jumped unaffiliated up to 80cm with success attended combine training clinics.

She would make a super WHP.

Travels beautifully Devon based . NOT FOR LOAN . I’m sure would measure for 122 classes !
Now sold to a wonderful new home ! Thankyou for all the enquiries sorry if I didn’t get back to you .

Your Next Pony Star! Traditional coloured pony


Ref #: 373744
  • Meet Attie, our charming 13 hands, six-year-old superstar!
  • A true yard favourite
SOLD!
  • Cob
  • Skewbald
  • Gelding
  • 6 years
  • 13 hands
  • Meet Attie, our charming 13 hands, six-year-old superstar!
  • A true yard favourite

Meet Attie, our charming 13 hands, six-year-old superstar! This delightful pony is bursting with potential and is ready to shine in the show ring.

Attie is all about fun—he loves to jump, enjoys hacking, and is always up for pleasure rides. His favorite pastime? Being pampered! Attie adores attention and is eager to please, making him a true yard favorite among both kids and small adults.

With a kind, confidence-giving temperament, Attie is unfazed by new environments, making him the perfect companion for young riders.

We’re prioritizing a five-star home for this little gem.

If you're looking for a pony who loves to be brushed, pampered, and is a joy to ride, Attie is the perfect match!

Don’t miss the chance to welcome this wonderful pony into your life! 


Fantastic fun pony


Ref #: 375814
  • Would excel in any discipline
  • Great to hack
  • Loves to jump
ONO
  • Welsh Section D
  • Appaloosa
  • Mare
  • 8 years
  • 14.2 hands
  • Would excel in any discipline
  • Great to hack
  • Loves to jump
Ginger 14.1/2hh, 8 year old mare. Ginger is a fantastic little mare who loves her job and would make an excellent all round or pony club pony.

We took her to Richmond a few weeks ago and her first time out over XC jumps and she loved it, so bold and brave.

Currently schooling round 80/90s and is keen as can be, really loves her job.

Her schooling is coming on great but is a little green in her flat work but still aims to please, this is through no fault of her own just lack of no arena at home.

She is excellent to hack alone or in company, and is safe and sane in open spaces, not bothered by any traffic or farm machinery.

Happy in a mix herd, easy to catch and handle. She is good with the farrier and dentist.

Up to date with teeth and vaccinations.

She travels well and is happy to stand in trailer but can take a few minutes to walk in the trailer sometimes.

She is a typical mare and can pull a face but that is about it, equally loves a cuddle and will stand and be brushed/fussed all day long.

Ginger is a very special to us and finding the right home and rider is the most important thing so no daydreamers/ joy riders.

More of a second pony as she is a forward ride although always snaffle mouthed so no novices please.

Only for sale as she is sadly outgrown

Super fun mare


Ref #: 375772
  • She has a super fun future ahead of her just looking for the right person
£4,500
  • Coloured
  • Mare
  • 5 years
  • 13.3 hands
  • She has a super fun future ahead of her just looking for the right person
Attractive 5 year old mare 13.3hh. Would suit teen/small adult.

Super chill out hacking alone and in company fantastic in heavy traffic. We have been using her to baby sit breakers.

Good athletic jump and loves it! She's been with me for several weeks schooling now and would do a lovely dressage test.

Missy has been to one show where she was inhand champion.

Paint Royale


Ref #: 375697
  • Sad sale of our 13.2hh gelding
SOLD!
  • Irish Sports Pony
  • Skewbald
  • Gelding
  • 21 years
  • 13.2 hands
  • Sad sale of our 13.2hh gelding
Paint is 21 this year but he doesn't look or act like it. He has been ridden by my 11 and 8 year olds and now it's time for him to find another family as we are moving onto a 14.2hh.

Will hack alone with confident rider but better in company. Needs to be in at night in the winter as he is a bit of a pampered prince so he won't go to a home with no stabling.

My children have had lots of lessons on him, but as we don't have a trailer he hasn't been out and about with us however we bought him from a showjumping home where he was regularly competing. Would be great on the lead rein.

Up to date with vaccs, worming etc. Shod in front. Good for farrier, to clip, bath, catch, load.

Comes with all tack and rugs.

Super fun SJ/all-rounder/hunting machine!


Ref #: 374041
  • Winning unaffiliated show jumping 70cm ready to affiliate
  • Hunted in Ireland with children, jumping hedges and gates
  • Done pony club activities
SOLD! Sold to first viewing! Couldn’t have found a better home. Thank you horsequest.
  • Irish
  • Coloured
  • Gelding
  • 5 years
  • 12.2 hands
  • Winning unaffiliated show jumping 70cm ready to affiliate
  • Hunted in Ireland with children, jumping hedges and gates
  • Done pony club activities
Fudgie Boy is the most fun pony out there! He really is one in a million and I think he will be somebody’s pony of a life time!

Fudgie hunted last season in Ireland, jumping hedges, gates, ditches and drains. As well as taking part in pony club activities. I recently imported him and since being with me we’ve been winning unaffiliated show jumping, beach rides, cross country. I am still in touch with his previous owner and rider. Unfortunately I don’t have a junior rider to ride him for me, he has been ridden on lead rein with a 4yr old where he was very sensible. He’s now ready to find his next jockey to enjoy many years with. I am 5ft4 and ride him so he does take up the leg.

Fudgie will make a fantastic BS starter pony/stepping stones pony, or I could even see him becoming a top track 128 pony in time! He is now ready to register and start BS. He is a fun forward ride, wouldn’t suit total novices or beginners due to his age, still needs more miles on the clock! That said, he’s got no malice in him and has never bucked, reared or said no! Would love to find him a home with a confident little rider and a knowledgeable family.

He is as bold as they come with his jumping, jumps whatever is in front of him and will go off a bad stride, he sorts his legs out! He has a careful and neat technique over a fence. Fudgie has been hacking out alone and in company proving sensible in traffic. He loves the beach and swimming!
Fudgie is great to load and travel in a trailer or horsebox.

Passed a 5 stage vetting when I purchased him. First to see will buy! Very sadly for sale sooner than anticipated as I need the space for a new young horse arriving.

* Can be seen and tried at Kelsall Arena Eventing Series Sat 1st June *

Includes his saddle, bridle and martingale.

WhatsApp for more photos/videos

Oatie


Ref #: 374073
  • Super fun pony
  • Would excel in any discipline
  • Needs competent and confident rider
£3,000 ONO
  • Cob
  • Blue and white
  • Mare
  • 5 years
  • 13.3 hands
  • Super fun pony
  • Would excel in any discipline
  • Needs competent and confident rider
Very honest ad

Oatie is a super fun little pony, she has been showjumping, cross country and dressage and is a little star, never had her stop at a fence and she’s seen all sorts of fillers and is surprisingly scopey!

She would excel in any discipline whether that’s low level jumping or dressage, she schools very nicely and is one that would definitely do well in the showing ring.

HOWEVER she is young and will mess about with the wrong rider and knows just about every trick in the book, for this reason she probably wouldn’t be suitable for a child unless very competent, if your firm and know what you’re doing she will be as good as gold but if you let her get away with anything she’ll try it on, she needs someone with a good seat who finds her quirks funny, once she knows where she stands with you she’s a very good girl and you could trust her with your life but you’ll have to deal with the quirks to get to that point. Unfortunately her current riders are completely overhorsed.

Her behaviour is reflected in her price,

This is a very sad sale of a much loved pony and a decision that hasn’t been taken lightly, we would really like to find her a nice forever home where she can have lots of fun and would love to keep in contact

WhatsApp for more photos and videos and more info

Based near Cambridge

Coloured Allrounder PC hacking


Ref #: 374028
  • Fantastic safe hack
  • Ideal teenager PC
£8,000 OVNO
  • Connemara Part Bred
  • Coloured
  • Mare
  • 9 years
  • 14.2 hands
  • Fantastic safe hack
  • Ideal teenager PC
Mae has primarily been a mother/daughter share for the last 4 years. At 9 shes the perfect age and shows this in her mature & calm demeanour. She loads perfectly in lorry or trailer, is good to catch clip & shoe. She can live in or out or combination & is always well mannered to lead in/out to the field. She is Connie x cob (no recorded breeding) up to date with jabs.

Mae is fantastic to hack on roads & open fields, she loves being out n about, will go through water. Hasnt done a lot of jumping but we have found her to be honest & willing, jumped up to 95 single & course of 85 including spooky fillers.

Reason for sale : daughter off to uni

£8000 ovno.

We feel Mae would suit a competent adult or a 12/13 plus yr old wanting to progress their riding as she is nicely responsive and FORWARDS off the leg- no kicking required. She is not suitable for a novice rider. She is fit n ready for a summer of rc or pc fun VIEWINGS AVAILABLE DURING HALF TERM.

No medical issues, laminitis sweetitch etc.

Just an all round sweet pony- videos of loading clipping hacking flat & jump available

Hasnt hunted - grounds been too hard to get vids xc.

Very exciting 138 novice pony


Ref #: 373896
  • Professionally produced
  • Jumped DC in her first BS class, Cats & Pipes
  • Very sensible for a young pony
£8,000
  • Sports Pony
  • Coloured
  • Mare
  • 4 years
  • 138 cm
  • Professionally produced
  • Jumped DC in her first BS class, Cats & Pipes
  • Very sensible for a young pony
Duchess is a striking, flashy mare with all the attributes of a top pony.

She has been professionally backed, produced and shown by us, having purchased her as a yearling.

She has 3 correct, flashy gaits. She is responsive and light in the mouth, working well on the flat and has a grasp of her lateral work and is easy to lengthen and shorten.

She has been to a handful of training shows as well as competing recently at her first BS show, jumping a class double clear in the Cats and Pipes.

She is brave and careful, isn't a stopper and really enjoys her jumping.

She's a really exciting young prospect, who will be an easy pony to produce.
She's used to being ridden by several different young riders and is well exposed to the world. Nothing shocks her and nothing worries her.

She's been XC, to the beach, hunted and enjoys every new challenge.

If your looking for a straight forward, fun and versatile pony to produce who's a pleasure to have around, give us a ring now.

Vice free, clean legs, without blemish. No hang ups.

Excellent trial facilities, coaches on site and keen to find her the right home.

Handsome traditional pony, TGCA passport


Ref #: 369745
  • Forward going.
  • Loves hacking.
£3,750 ONO
  • Cob
  • Piebald
  • Gelding
  • 6 years
  • 13 hands
  • Forward going.
  • Loves hacking.
Rising 6 traditional cob for sale, tgca passport

Elvis is 13hh and is a cracking fun pony. He is a forward going cob but is still green and very much still learning so would suit a confident rider to bring him on.

Elvis loves hacking and will go in front or behind, and will hack on his own. He has seen all sorts and never worried.

Schooling wise Elvis has three lovely paces but he is still green in the school however he shows real promise with a bit more education.

Elvis loves pole work and has been over a few small jumps with scope.

Elvis loves to be groomed, travels well and is good to be clipped. He is barefoot and up to date with jabs back and teeth.

Elvis does’nt like being on his own so would need to be with others.

Elvis is for sale as my girls are just too big for him and he would be wasted standing in a field. We would like to stay in contact with new owner as we have had Elvis since a foal and will miss him very much.

£ £3,750 including tack and rugs

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