• Welsh Section C
• Palomino
• Gelding
• 7 years
• 13 hands

• Blank canvas
• Loves to jump
• Flashy

We are offering a gorgeous project for sale. He has been ridden a handful of times by my 10yo daughter and sadly due to lack of time and other commitments we are not in a position to continue his education.

He loves to jump and is not phased by any fillers, has been good to hack and has basic flatwork established.

Will be a great contender for 128cm stepping stones/springboard classes as well as would make a nice working hunter pony in my opinion.

No stable vices, lumps/bumps or health issues.

Can be a monkey to catch unless your armed with treats!

Lots of ridden videos upon WhatsApp request.

Sold from field.

• Cob
• Grey
• Mare
• 17 years
• 12.2 hands (LHC)

• Done all pony club activities, including camps.
• Done XC and seen hounds
• Easy to have, never sick or sorry

Done all pony club activities, including camps.

Qualified and attended Hickstead NSEA Championship 2025 in 50cm & 60cm- easily popped round the course.
We’ve competed up to 70cm
Jumped up to 80 at home
Done XC and seen hounds.
Qualified in a team for junior series in 60cm

Easy to have, never sick or sorry, bare foot. Clipped last winter by our 10 year old. Kids can do anything with her.
My 11 year old hacks her out alone around our farm and so safe and trustworthy.

Tinker is a forward going pony and needs to be enjoyed by a child or small adult who wants to go out and keep her busy- jumps for fun and likes to go but equally has breaks and happily trot a 30/40 cross pole course. She is a kind and safe pony and just wants to please.
(Previously owned by granny & granddaughter)

Very sad sale as this pony is a pleasure to own, sadly outgrown.

• Blue and white
• Gelding
• 5 years
• 12.2 hands

• BEEN IN THE SAME HOME SINCE A FOAL
• BRAVE, HONEST AND HUGE POTENTIAL
• A TRUE FUN PONY WHO IS BEING RIDDEN BY A CHILD

Timmy is a truly special little pony with all the attributes to become a top-class Pony Club all-rounder and a child / small adult’s best friend.

He is very genuine and willing in every way. He is currently ridden by a lightweight 13-year-old (5 stone) and is happily working in the school, walk, trot and canter. He’s popping a small course of fences nicely and has been cross-country, where he proved bold and keen, absolutely loving his jumping.

Timmy hacks out confidently both alone and in company and has been very good in traffic. He has a sensible head on young shoulders and takes everything in his stride.

He has been in the same loving place since a foal and has previously attended in-hand shows. He is now ready to go out and about and start getting some rosettes. Will be a cracking Pony Club.

Timmy is good to do in all ways — turnout, catch, stable, clip, bath, tack up, load, and handle.

A very sad reason for finding him a new jockey, he simply hasn’t grown big enough. This is a genuine, much-loved pony who will go on to be a superstar in the right hands. His family would love to stay in touch.

Still young and green, so he will need a kind, knowledgeable home to continue his education — but he has absolutely no malice and all the potential in the world.

His full wardrobe (rugs, saddle, bridle etc) are available to go with him for extra if wanted

Based Whitchurch, Shropshire

• Welsh Section C
• Bay
• Gelding
• 19 years
• 13.2 hands

• Safe, low level allrounder
• Perfect family pony
• Looking for steady, private home

Jasper is a 13.2hh registered Welsh Section C gelding, 19 years old (turns 20 on 20/5/26). He has a lovely temperament both on the ground and ridden. He's excellent in all ways, with a great history of riding school work and pony club. For the last 18 months Jasper has worked in our equine assisted therapy centre, supporting both adults and children with their mental health through a combination of groundwork and ridden sessions. He is now looking for a private home to enjoy plenty of love, cuddles, and low level work.

Jasper is safe and consistent, happily carrying riders of all ages and abilities in walk, trot, and canter. Still loves to pop a small fence. He schools willingly and is never sharp, wouldn't take much to get him back to his potential on the flat but this hasn't been asked of him with us. Excellent to hack.

Would be a lovely steady pony for a competent child, an all-round family pony, or for a small adult looking to enjoy a slower pace of life. Jasper will do lead rein and first ridden if it’s occasional, but his main rider needs to be balanced and confident to keep him engaged.

Has mild arthritis which is managed with supplements alongside regular physiotherapy. He is in work 4 days a week including flatwork, occasional small jumps, and hacking. We are not looking for a high level pony club or competition home for him, but he would easily pop round a course of cross poles from time to time.

Up to date with worming, is barefoot, and is good to catch, clip, load, for the vet, dentist, and farrier etc.

Jasper will stable for short periods if needed but is far more comfortable living out 24/7. He is happy in a mixed herd or turned out alone.

This is a very sad sale. We had hoped Jasper would stay with us long-term, so finding him the right home is incredibly important. We would love to stay in touch with his new home.

• Cob
• Piebald
• Gelding
• 9 years
• 12.3 hands

• Easy Going Character
• Got a “speed” button
• Loan or Sale

Our lovely little cob is looking for a new home, sadly outgrown he needs a new rider to enjoy his cheeky character!

Has done PC/Rallies/Clinics/Group hacks.

Bombproof hack, loves being out and doesn’t mind any kind of traffic whether it’s tractors, milk wagons, bikes etc. Will hack alone or in company. Does whinny until settled with family but soon relaxes. (He doesn’t do this with us anymore).

Barefoot and great for farrier
Happy to be clipped
Handled by 11 year old, she does everything with along with catching in field (easy, no treats needed)
Stands quietly to be groomed by all children, tacked up by children and loves a fuss.

Lives in and out and easy on hay and grass +
Balancer.

Up to date with vaccines/worming/teeth.

Great in the arena but he is strong for a stocky lad! So requires a strong confident rider. Possibly a small adult.

Never nasty (no bucks/rears).

He loves hacking and has a cracking jump and loves to jump!

We don’t ride him in open fields as my daughter isn’t confident.

Looking for a fab family! Very sad sale!

WhatsApp for more info/videos/pictutes

Based North Cumbria

• Cob
• Blue and white
• Gelding
• 5 years
• 14.2 hands

• Good to hack
• Sweet to do

I purchased Monty from a driving home 6 months ago to fill the gap as my young horse had a holiday. He was unbroken to ride but proved to be very easy to break and took to everything quickly.

In this time Monty has done a variety of all-rounder activities including beach rides, arena XC and some jumping at home. He is established on the flat in walk and trot with a consistent contact and is responsive to canter but needs more time and strength to develop in this area. He would do a very sweet intro test already.

Monty has done a small amount of jumping, mainly working on basics so not to rush him. He has done gridwork, small courses of 70cm (including fillers) and arena XC. So far he has proved very brave with steps, water, ditches and solid fences. He’s not phased about other horses jumping/splashing through the water around him.

Hacking is probably Monty’s favourite ridden activity. He has done plenty of beach rides - enjoying a plod through the sea or a canter with friends. He has also been good to hack in open fields and on the road, having the occasional spook at something silly but generally a relaxed character. Hacks alone and in company. Goes first or last - doesn’t panic he’s being left behind etc.

Monty is easy on the ground, good to catch, lead, load, clip, shoe and with the vet. He is up to date with teeth, physio, vaccinations and can come with his professionally fitted GFS saddle. He is currently on individual turnout but has previously been turned out with others. Lives in or out and is generally an easy going chap.

His perfect home would be with someone who loves hacking or wants to do a bit more producing to get him to PC/RC standard. He will tolerate people pressing the wrong buttons but ideally needs someone competent and confident to keep his education on the right track. Unfortunately, I cannot afford to run two horses so Monty needs to find his next person. Open to viewings and vettings. Based in West Sussex, West Wittering.

£5500ovno to include fitted saddle.

• Welsh Section D
• Black
• Mare
• 6 years
• 14.2 hands

• Safe and sane whilst being very wizzy and fun!
• Very easy to handle and super easy to have around
• Very scopey jump & speedy - would excel BSJA with more experience

Mimi is a very loving 14.2hh Welsh D mare who we bought last summer to back and produce. She has been an absolute pleasure from the start and has been a real yard favourite. Mimi is very easy to have around and to handle, she would happily stand around like a statue all day long to be groomed and fussed over. Mimi is very forwards and wizzy and therefore wouldn’t suit a novice however she has never bucked, bronced or bolted etc. just a speedy girly who loves her job! Mimi takes confidence from her rider but has happily jumped fillers, water trays and been XC schooling. She will be a very good little competition pony with more experience and I’m sure she’ll go on to do big things!

Tack available by separate negotiation

Open to viewings & vettings (located NN12) but unfortunately no loans or trials etc.

Please WhatsApp or call Rose 07564 837689 to arrange viewings or for further details

• Welsh Section B
• Liver chestnut
• Mare
• 13 years
• 12.2 hands

• Safe & reliable in all situations
• Has done Pony Club, dressage, XC, hacking, beach rides & family fun
• Quiet to do in all ways

Registered Welsh B 12.2hh mare, 13 years old sadly looking for her next home.

Sensible to hack out by herself or with others, in traffic, around open fields, going for a canter in groups, on beaches, in windy weather, etc. Good to load, clip, handle & pick out feet etc. She also drives (we’ve had her in harness & sledged with her!) Happy to live out in a mixed herd. Good feet (unshod), teeth, worming & vaccinations all up to date.

Fit and in regular work. Full tack & wardrobe available - little Kent & Masters saddle, bridle with Neue Schule bit, driving harness, rugs, matching Lemieux etc.

• ID x TB
• Bay
• Mare
• 5 years
• 14.2 hands

• Rising 5, by the well known stallion My Eclipse (son of Shaab) out of an ID mare, fab temperament
• Currently standing between 14.2hh and 14.3hh and bum high – should finish around 15hh
• Backed and riding away sensibly, loving hacking out, ready to produce. Up to date with everything.

A very sweet young mare with a nice start and the breeding and temperament to develop into a fab small allrounder, Oti is confident and kind. A compact type with a willing attitude, backed and straightforward to do, she’s not been rushed and has not been jumped, a genuine blank canvas ready for someone to produce and put their own stamp on her.

Owned since she was 1 (direct from her breeder at Tremayne Irish Draughts in Cornwall), she’s a fabulous and much-loved little mare and she wouldn’t be going anywhere if she’d grown a hand bigger – sadly she’s just not grown big enough for me.

She has recently been professionally backed proving very straightforward to do, and is currently riding away sensibly at her backing yard in Cornwall.

Oti is already a pleasure to have out and about:
- She’s done plenty of groundwork including lots of long lining. Easy on the ground, on the yard, in the stable.
- Professionally backed and riding away very sensibly for her age – she’s brave, willing, unspooky and not phased by things, should make a proper ‘have a go at anything’ sort.
- Hacking out and genuinely enjoys it – is the same whether she goes first or last and has been out alone around the farm with no problems.
- Confident being in the indoor school but still extremely green.
- Good in all traffic seen so far, including tractors.

She is:
- Level-headed, biddable, and should prove easy to produce.
- A friendly people person, generally wants to be with you and involved in whatever you’re doing.
- Good with other horses, easy with any routine or management.
- Great with the farrier, has always been barefoot and regularly trimmed, up to date with this.
- Great with the vet, up to date with vaccinations, teeth, worming. Wolf teeth removed a couple of years ago.
- Fine in her stable and with being left whilst others go out.
- Easy to catch: has always come to call, follows you around the field.
- Confident with new experiences & takes things in her stride.
- Kind with children, good with dogs (has been used to lots of dogs since I’ve had her).
- Not phased by machinery and tractors (we had lots of work done on the yard whilst she was a baby and she was super interested in watching it all).

She’s realistically priced due to her relative lack of experience to date:
- She’s backed & riding away very sensibly but hasn’t been out to shows / seen much of the world yet.
- I’ve never clipped her or bathed her, I don’t think she’d have a problem with either (she’s had the back of clippers all over her whilst on with no issues) but she’s never done it.
- She’s an inexperienced traveller because I’ve never had transport.
- She’s got a very tiny cold splint that has never caused any issues, from hooning around being a youngster on lots of land in the spring last year.

Location:
Located in Cornwall between Falmouth & Helston at her backing yard, she's now in regular ridden work and her price will increase the more she does.

Who she’d suit:
Oti would suit someone kind and experienced who’s looking for an easy little mare to produce this summer. No novices purely due to her age – she deserves a balanced rider capable of furthering her education. She’d turn her hoof to lots of things, should be a lovely all rounder for all ages.

No loans, no LWVTB, no payment plans. Genuine enquiries only please.

Please whatsapp message me on 07763 732286 for enquiries / further information.

• Welsh Section A
• Dark bay
• Mare
• 11 years
• 11.2 hands

• Handled by children
• Good To Hack
• Good on the lead or off the lead

Sadly quickly outgrown

Lola is about 11.2, registered 11 year old, although we’ve only owner her since last August, she was in her previous home about 6 years.

Lola has been a much loved lead rein / first ridden / second ridden pony. She will hack out unfazed by anything, she will walk / trot and canter in the school however she’s not super well schooled so her transitions from trot to canter can be messy as she will run in to the canter, however she’s not dead to the leg but she’s also not going to run off with your child and seems to know when she has an unbalanced tiny tot on board or a child that she can be a bit more forward with.

Good to catch, will stand to be pampered, good for the farrier, good to bath / load And travel.

Lolas previous owners had done local level shows and she is well behaved in a show environment.

We have had absolutely no issues at all with Lola over the last 9 months and she is currently living out so is hairy and roughed off at the minute, however I will start getting her in and back in work for viewings.

Lots of photos and videos available, good home is important for this little girl.

Based Halifax West Yorkshire

• Cob
• Piebald
• Mare
• 10 years
• 13.2 hands

• Genuine safe school mistress who turns her hoof to anything and everything.
• Loves her job, brilliant to hack, safe in all traffic.
• Full up 13.2hh 10 year old mare.

If you’re looking for a safe, sensible family pony who can turn her hooves to anything, you may have found her.

This gorgeous 10 year old mare is a full up 13.2 and has been an absolute ‘heart pony’ and wonderful confidence giver, as well as the best teacher a child can have, she has taken her riders from lead rein through mini teams to confidently jumping 70!

She has done pony club and everything from rallies, camps and beach rides to Area Competitions. She shows promise to do more in her dressage and is very balanced and polite and educated for a cobby type, and she loves cross country, adding many rosettes to the wall! She is also steady and reliable SJ, but isn’t the fastest!!

She is easy to handle, clip, shoe and load. She has lovely feathers, we usually clip them off and keep her more streamlined. She has had her teeth routinely done, with no issues. Easy with other ponies and can hack out on her own and in company. She is good in all traffic, happily hacks alone or with others through cattle and a busy farm.

Prior to us she was in the same home for four years, doing her job before she was genuinely outgrown and her riders moved on to a sportier model.

She loves fuss and attention, and we are hoping to find her a home with a child who can already trot and canter but maybe has lost their confidence and is looking for a very special friend to hold their hand and help them enjoy riding again. Maybe with a small parent who can hack occasionally in the week although she doesn’t mind and is no different if ridden less.

This is a very difficult decision. She is wasted with our son, she is just too nice a pony and loves the attention too much to be stood in the field, and our daughter just can’t manage the time for two ponies with ever increasing school and social commitments.

She can be seen with a friend who has better facilities, so she can be tried in an arena and hacking etc.

Please no time wasters. We are looking to find her a loving and caring new home hopefully over the school holiday.

• Welsh Section D
• Palomino
• Mare
• 7 years
• 14 hands

• Done PC rallies, camps and games
• Hunted, showjumped, shown and schools fantastically
• True Potential for a working hunter pony

14hh Welsh D (very sporty type) Mare | 7yrs | “Candy Crabbick”
Sold on behalf of a client

A real head-turning palomino mare with presence, ability and plenty of character — Candy is a fun, versatile pony ready to excel in the right home.

Candy has a fantastic all-round CV; she has shown, jumped, hunted, attended Pony Club rallies and camps, and been cross country. She is a genuine contender for the working hunter ring, with three fantastic, expressive paces to match.

She works sweetly on the flat in a nice outline and is naturally quick, balanced and agile, making her a great contender for riding club, showing, NSEA, working hunter or a fun competitive home. She enjoys her work and thrives when kept busy.

She is a brilliant, genuine jumper — happily popping ditches, logs and natural obstacles, and has been hunting, proving herself bold and willing. She would make a fantastic hunt pony or all-rounder for someone wanting to get out and have fun.

Hacking is a real highlight; she is excellent in traffic, confident in open spaces and happy to go alone or in company, either first or last. Snaffle-mouthed and sensible.

Candy is not dangerous in any way, but she is a forward-going pony who loves her work, so would suit a confident, competent rider who will give her clear, consistent handling. She is not a novice ride or a push-button pony, but in the right home she will be a hugely rewarding and fun partner.

Up to date with farrier, vaccinations and dentist. Good to handle day-to-day, lives in or out and is good with mares and geldings.

Candy has been in the same home for the past year, with full history known since breaking and previous owner still in contact.

Very sad, genuine sale as she has proven a little too much pony for a 10-year-old. A lovely, knowledgeable home is sought, with both current and previous owners keen to stay in contact.

If I wasn’t 5ft10, she would have been snapped up — a seriously fun, capable pony with so much to offer.

• Connemara Part Bred
• Grey
• Gelding
• 18 years
• 14.2 hands (LHC)

• Confidence giving
• Fantastic to hack
• Ideal mother / child share

A much-loved and genuine all-rounder looking for his next home after 5 wonderful years with us. He has given both of our girls endless fun and confidence and is now ready to do the same for another family.

Although he holds a life height certificate at 14.2, he measures closer to 15.1, making him a perfect step-up between pony and horse.

18 years young and certainly doesn't act his age - he knows his job and looks after his rider.

Handled regularly by children & kind and easy to manage. Can ride and lead.

Hacks confidently alone or in company. Great with traffic / farm machinery / loud noises.

Our girls have competed regularly at pony club and NSEA comps. Lots of rosettes and qualifications.

Jumps comfortably up to 90cm and enjoys his jumping. My daughter jumps higher at home and at rallies but would say he is most comfortable competing up to 90cm.

Lovely dressage test & has scored 70% at Novice level

XC with pony club and various rallies

Good to lunge and on the Pessoa

Easy to catch and handle

Lives happily with both mares and geldings

Full history known, with contact with previous owner

He is a genuine, fun horse who has been a huge part of our family and is ready to give someone else just as much enjoyment.

A Few Minor Points (as no horse is perfect!):

Prefers travelling in a lorry or herringbone trailer. Can be reluctant to load in a forward facing trailer, but manageable with encouragement (previous owner had a trailer)

Doesn't like being left alone in the stable when others are turned out

Had hocks injected last year & may need doing again in future, though our vet is very happy with him

Previously had a melanoma removed (common in grey horses). No issues but was near the girth so didn't want it to rub.

For clipping, we give a mild sedation mainly for around the head & not always essential, but makes the process quicker and stress-free. I have videos of clipping with and without sedation.

Located in West Sussex

Sold with bridle, girth, rugs, etc.

Saddle (purchased for just under £2,000 last year) available by separate negotiation

A truly special horse who has been a pleasure to own. Finding the right home is our absolute priority.
Please get in touch for more information, photos, videos or to arrange a viewing.

• Sports Pony
• Dark bay
• Mare
• 12 years
• 14.2 hands

• 14.2
• 12 years Old
• Lovely temperament

Reluctant sale of a much-loved mare.
If circumstances were different, this pony would never be leaving us. She was bought for my daughter, but I unintentionally over-horsed her. After three years, it’s clear she needs a more suitable rider who can give her the consistency, confidence and direction she thrives on. She is currently being wasted in the field and deserves a home that can bring out her best.
There is a lot to like about her. She travels well, hacks sensibly, and has always been reliable in traffic. She stands politely for the farrier and vet. She enjoys hacking in open fields, lanes and the forest, and she has previously jumped  videos available.
This advert aims to give a fair and transparent overview. She is best suited to a competent teenager or small adult who rides confidently and sympathetically. She can be seasonally “hot” and will test a rider she doesn’t respect. She is not a schoolmistress. She can also, on occasion, unseat a rider if she feels she can take advantage  this is not malicious, but it is part of why she needs a capable, balanced rider who can ride her forward and through her moments. In the right hands she offers a powerful, forward, rewarding ride.
She originally came from a showing home. During her time with us she has had some veterinary issues which have been fully investigated and treated; full history is available from Hirds. Some maintenance may be required. She has been out of consistent work over winter due to my daughter’s injury, so she is currently hacking and in light work only. She is therefore a project for someone confident, kind and firm who can re-establish boundaries and schooling. Her quirks are reflected in her price.
Price includes tack and rugs. A suitable home is essential.
She thrives in a quieter yard or smallholding, winters out well, and prefers living out year-round. She holds weight easily, so her diet needs managing.
Happy to answer any questions and will only let her go to the right home.

• Welsh Section B
• Dark bay
• Gelding
• 14 years
• 13.2 hands

• Ryan is a genuine, fun, and extremely capable pony who loves being out for hunting, hacking, & PC

A forward-going, honest ride, best suited to a confident child or small jockey who enjoys being up front and getting on with it.

What He Has Done
• Hunted with the Blackmore & Sparkford Vale Hunt (BV), South & West Wilts, and the Portman. Happily jumping hedges, timber, and wire, and jumps everything asked of him out hunting
• Active with South & West Wilts and Portman Pony Clubs
• Showjumping and cross country, bold and genuine
• Pony Club race series, consistently placed (with previous owner)
• Raced at Cheltenham and Ascot, achieving top 4 finishes in 10 competitive races during his only season

Type & Temperament
• Loves hunting and being out all day
• Forward-going, responsive ride
• Snaffle mouth at all times
• Very hardy and never seems to tire
• Excellent in traffic and used to the roads
• Leads off other horses
• Good in and out and sensible to handle
• Good with other ponies

Manners & Practicality
• Easy to load, shoe, and clip
• Safe and straightforward to manage
• Comes with a full wardrobe
• Never sick or sorry, vaccinations up to date

Future Potential
• Still has further potential as a racing pony

Why He’s For Sale

A sad sale of a much-loved pony; outgrown sooner than expected as both girls are too tall.

Ideal Home
• Confident, forward-going child or small jockey
• Someone wanting to hunt, race, and enjoy a versatile pony
• Five-star home only

Based in Hindon, Wiltshire. Viewings welcome.

Please text or WhatsApp for further details

• Cob
• Piebald
• Mare
• 5 years
• 13.1 hands

• Professionally broken and riding away.
• A genuinely kind and lovely mare.
• Heartbreaking sale as she just hasn’t made the height I need.

It is with a very heavy heart that I am offering my beautiful 5-year-old traditional Gypsy Cob for sale. Standing at a chunky 13.1hh, she simply hasn’t made the height I need, making this an incredibly difficult decision.

She is a truly well-rounded pony because she has been given the best start in life—brought on slowly, carefully, and professionally broken. She is a kind, clever and affectionate soul. Unphased by farm machinery, heavy traffic, dogs, sheep, chickens etc. Easy to load, travel, and stands well for our farrier. She’s a good doer, barefoot, and happy living in or out.

She’s now looking for a partner in crime to continue her education and take her on the adventures she deserves.

She is loved beyond measure here, and finding a 5-star home where she will be cherished is my top priority. Price negotiable for the perfect home.

A perfect opportunity for someone looking to put their own stamp on a lovely pony who has been professionally started.

Due to her age and experience she would not be suitable for a novice.

Full wardrobe available if required.


Central Scotland

• Cob
• Black Roan
• Mare
• 15 years
• 13.1 hands

• Loves children
• Super Hacking Pony - Safe in traffic
• Super all rounder - lead rein pony

Brilliant 13.1hh mare

Bess can be trusted with the smallest of children .

Bess turning 15 this year.

Brilliant in Traffic we are next to an industrial estate and often has to give leads
She hack alone or in company
Great in open fields .
Use to all farm traffic

Turns out with mares or geldings.

Super lead rein pony . She works well in the school and moves very well - she rides bigger than what she is with a great stride so if off the lead would need a capable child not that she's naughty but she can cover the ground .
Out hacking this is where this pony comes into her own and she loves it !! you can trust her to the end of the earth she will go on her own and she will just pootle behind the bigger horses or ride and lead . She has seen all traffic and animals .

She will happily pop around but she has not done a huge amount of jumping but with work has the ability there.

My parents brought Bess last year for my sisters children but unfortunately the interest is not there and she can go weeks without been ridden . She is currently being ridden by my daughter but she has two horses and we do not have any smaller jockey's for her

We have taken Bess to pony club rallies in the Rain and snow she loads in the dark travels well on her own or in company. She has done the pony club hunt children meet on the lead rein .

Great for the children to do the sort you can tie up and leave them to do . Fantastic to clip !!

She is bare foot - fab for the farrier with great feet . She is up-to date with her vaccinations.

This pony needs a new best friend as she deserves it .

Please get in touch if you think she may be for you . She will come with her tack.